The goal is to be able to have a long career and to be able to continue to make music that is relevant and meaningful.

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

永远不要骄傲自满。没有什么是一成不变的。无论是个人还是企业，如果不经常寻求自我重塑和自我改进的方法，就会被竞争对手打败。尤其是组织，因为组织比想象中更脆弱。

海洋是生命的摇篮，渔业是人类的传统产业，我们要在保护中开发，在开发中保护。