I am more interested in what can be done with the knowledge than in the knowledge itself.

The challenge is to make the invisible visible.

The task of psychology is to analyze the contents of consciousness into its elements.

"I'm interested in the darkness. If you don't go into the darkness, you're never going to see the light."

如果在一个游戏中，获胜变得过于重要，那么我们可以修改游戏规则以便从中获得更多乐趣。而修改规则本身就可以成为一个新的游戏。